It is a question at the heart of the row over the future of steelworks. Tata Steel says the site is losing 拢1m a day and is unsustainable. The 海角视频 Government says it has stepped in on this basis to provide 拢500m to ensure the site has a long term future and a smaller workforce is better than no workforce.
But the unions say they simply don't buy the figures. Indian-owned steel giant Tata released figures to workers this week in the form of a fact sheet aimed at proving their point. Figures for the second quarter of its current financial year show that Tata Steel 海角视频, which as well as Port Talbot includes all its downstream operations such as Trostre and Shotton in Wales, posted earnings before tax, interest, depreciation and amortisation (Ebitda) losses of of 拢134.6m, which equated to 拢1.46m per day.
Figures for the third quarter, released last week, show Ebitda losses increasing to around 拢1.7m daily based on a near 拢160m deficit for the three month period. Due to factors such as internal pricing - the charging of goods and services between companies in the same group - Tata doesn鈥檛 break out figures for the financial performance of individual sites such as Port Talbot with its 海角视频 figures.
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Tata says that such huge losses mean it is unsustainable to keep Port Talbot operating in its current form and invest the billions it needs to replace the blast furnaces as they reach the end of their working lives in the coming years. It is moving to an electric arc furnace operation at a total cost of 拢1.25bn, that would make far less polluting steel from scrap steel. The ending of primary steel making will result in just under 3,000 job losses, the vast majority which would be felt in Port Talbot which employs around 4,000. The ending of primary steel making, over the next 18 months, will also see contractors and jobs in Tata鈥檚 wider supply chain also impacted.
In a fact check entitled document sent to all staff, and which is being sent out more widely to politicians, Tata said it losses in the 海角视频 are unsustainable, even with 拢3bn of potential investment from a new 海角视频 Government with a condition of a maintaining blast furnace capacity until an electric arc furnace comes on stream - a process, which with planning and construction, is likely to take four years.
On claims that its losses are being overstated, the document says: 鈥淭he directors of Tata Steel 海角视频 have a legal duty to prepare annual accounts which give a true and fair view of the assets, liabilities and financial position of the company. PWC, an independent auditor, then inspects our accounts, like they do with other companies, to ensure they鈥檙e correct and comply with the law. Our financial accounts are available for anyone to see on the 海角视频鈥檚 Companies House website.
鈥淥ur parent company, Tata Steel Ltd, is publicly-listed in India with more than a million shareholders who effectively own it. It also publishes its financial results every three months, which include the 海角视频 business figures.Those accounts show that since 2007, Tata Steel 海角视频 has lost more than 拢4bn after tax. The business has only been able to keep going because our parent company in India has provided the necessary financial support. Without continued parental support, Tata Steel 海角视频 would not be able to carry on trading. With ageing assets, the 海角视频 losses in 2023 got even worse. In the past three months, we lost almost 拢160m (Ebitda) 鈥 about 拢1.7m a day. That鈥檚 clearly not sustainable.鈥
However, this is not to say that Tata in the 海角视频, where nearly two-thirds of the steel produced is for the domestic market, hasn鈥檛 been profitable in the 海角视频.
For its end of March, 2022 financial year Tata Steel 海角视频 made profits of 拢206m on 拢3.124bn of revenues - although boosted by a tax credit of 拢126m. In its last full financial year to March, 2023, it posted pre-tax losses of 拢674m, which were inflated by a 拢395m tax charge, on revenues of 拢3.127bn. Of its revenues the 海角视频 market generates nearly two-thirds 拢1.77bn, with mainland Europe 拢1.18bn and just 拢165m with the rest of the world. It had borrowings of 拢1.15bn. This includes inter group and parent borrowings of 拢503m. Combined loans of 拢175m to Tata Steel 海角视频 and Tata Netherlands Holdings have interest charges ranging from 5.25% to 6%.
Before Tata split its 海角视频 operations from its Dutch steel operations in 2021, there were those who believed that legitimate inter-company charges were used to make the trading position of Port Talbot less favourable than those in Holland.
The Unite union, as well as Aberavon MP Stephen Kinnock, has questioned Tata鈥檚 level of losses. In a statement Unite said: 鈥淲e keep hearing rumours about Port Talbot 鈥榖leeding鈥 拢1-1.5m per day but this just won鈥檛 wash. Be in no doubt that the money is there. Tata Steel Ltd has reserves of 拢1.6bm and has paid out dividends of 拢1.4bn to shareholders between 2019 and 2023.
After years of profits it is true that Tata Steel 海角视频 reported a much lower loss (of 拢440,000 a day) in 2022/23. This was due to high energy prices and lower production levels. But any losses are expected to be substantially down in the current year, as energy prices have fallen and the company itself has said that market conditions will improve. Tata also claims to have invested almost 拢5bn in Port Talbot since 2007, but Unite鈥檚 forensic accountants have shown that the true figure is less than 拢1bn.
" And once Tata Steel has a brand-new taxpayer subsidised electric arc furnace the value of Port Talbot will rocket while we know that demand for steel is going up. For a company already making steel in other countries such as India and the Netherlands the calculations are different. Tata may look to import steel from its other plants as opposed to producing it in Britain. That鈥檚 why taxpayer funded investments should come with job guarantees. Workers yet again are being asked to pay the price while the bosses line their pockets. The question is are they going to be allowed to get away with it?鈥
On the stated losses, Mr Kinnock told the : 鈥淚 think somebody needs to look at that figure because I have always been very sceptical about that figure.鈥
On its dividend policy. the Mumbai listed business, said: 鈥淭ata Steel, like any public company, is accountable to its shareholders who reasonably expect to receive a return on their investment. Tata Steel has been an incredibly patient investor in our 海角视频 business since it acquired Corus in 2007. It has invested 拢4.7bn here in the 海角视频, but has not earned either profits or received a single penny in dividends in return. It was also compelled to write off the entire amount of its investment in the 海角视频 business.
Imagine this was your money 鈥 would you invest in a company making financial losses with its current set-up? In our latest financial results, the 海角视频 business lost a further 拢159m in just three months 鈥 that鈥檚 拢1.7m a day. Despite these losses and having to write off its investment in the 海角视频, Tata Steel is still proposing to invest 拢750m in electric arc furnace technology and asset upgrades to secure long-term, high-quality steel production in Port Talbot.
鈥淚t will also provide more than 拢150m for a comprehensive support package for affected employees, community programmes, skills training and job-seeking initiatives, including through the Transition Board. Additionally, the company will continue to provide significant funding to cover expected cash losses for the 海角视频 business during the proposed transition.鈥
